Dean33 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Navigraph charts usually show 'top altitude' for SID. eg KPHX STRRM.1 is 8000 Instructions given by ATC are 'climb via the SID' so we need to know the top altitude. I can't see this on the SID chart - just the directions. Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsk8 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Dean33 said: Navigraph charts usually show 'top altitude' for SID. eg KPHX STRRM.1 is 8000 Instructions given by ATC are 'climb via the SID' so we need to know the top altitude. I can't see this on the SID chart - just the directions. Am I missing something? Must be the particular chart you are looking at. I have seen several Sids with altitudes specified/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewulf47 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Unfortunately the initial altitude fo a SID is not part of the ARINC dataset. That's one of the few things that we simply can't depict as we don't have the infornation. We can only depict restrictions which are sometimes identical to initial altitudes as e.g.on many British airports. Personally I'm by no means happy with that situation either. Maybe one day we find a solution for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean33 Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, lonewulf47 said: Unfortunately the initial altitude fo a SID is not part of the ARINC dataset. That's one of the few things that we simply can't depict as we don't have the infornation. We can only depict restrictions which are sometimes identical to initial altitudes as e.g.on many British airports. Personally I'm by no means happy with that situation either. Maybe one day we find a solution for that. Well that’s a shame. Looks like I still need the Navigraph charts or the Pilotedge controllers will give me grief! Great system though and certainly an upgrade on EFB1. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewulf47 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Dean33 said: Well that’s a shame. Looks like I still need the Navigraph charts or the Pilotedge controllers will give me grief! Great system though and certainly an upgrade on EFB1. Thanks. Well, it's not that bad?You wo'n't hurt anybody if you climb at your own discretion... As a good rule use the Transition Altitude as your first climb limit, in FAA controlled airspace (TA18.000 ft) use 6000 ft. That suits in most cases... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiloJuliett Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 6 hours ago, lonewulf47 said: As a good rule use the Transition Altitude as your first climb limit I wouldn't support this statement looking at Europe where the initial climb altitude often is below the transition altitude. If you are flying in a network, just confirm the initial climb altitude with the IFR clearance. Then you can already setup your MCP correctly and all the virtual controllers will be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordfish Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 A great solution for this "problem" would be to create the possibility to insert own notes at the procedures page (SID) Then everyone can insert the info he needs there from the navigraph charts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiloJuliett Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Similar to what is available for the minimas! I would support that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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