PeterDa Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I enter the following track into the EFB: KJFK MERIT3 MERIT HFD PUT BOS TUSKY N63B VIXUN MALOT 55N050W 56N040W 56N030W 55N020W GISTI DUNLO DIBAL UL603 LAMSO EHAM If I save this in PMDG .rte format it is correctly read into the PMDG 737NGX FMC. If I save in in FSX .pln format, however, the NATS waypoints are not read bij Active Sky Evolution; this is because the following parameter is missing for these waypoints: xxxxxx Peter Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aivlasoft Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Peter, thanks for this information. I will have a look at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aivlasoft Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Peter, after some tests I can say that FSX doesn't accept a user-waypoint which contains a unknown name as the ICAO identifier. invalid: N50/W030 also invalid: N50W030 valid: GISTI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDa Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Peter, after some tests I can say that FSX doesn't accept a user-waypoint which contains a unknown name as the ICAO identifier. Hello Urs, thank you for the feedback. PMDG .RTE files have no problem with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheair Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 may I suggest you try the following route : KJFK MERIT3 MERIT PUT BOS TUSKY N63B VIXUN 5550N 5640N 5630N 5520N MALOT GISTI DUNLO DIBAL UL603 LAMSO LAMS1A EHAM where the coords are NAT-type (5 characters) : first 2 figures are the N lat, the second 2 are W lon, and N stands for NAT (see EFB manual) works fine as a saved FSX .pln Does it with Active Sky Evolution ? please check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest William Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Strange - I always thought the N stands for North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDa Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 may I suggest you try the following route :KJFK MERIT3 MERIT PUT BOS TUSKY N63B VIXUN 5550N 5640N 5630N 5520N MALOT GISTI DUNLO DIBAL UL603 LAMSO LAMS1A EHAM Does it with Active Sky Evolution ? please check Hello Jean-Louis, Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately it still doesn't work. I can however make it work by adding something like Added 1 after 5550N in which case I see "Added 1" as waypont identification. Active Sky Evolution must be less tolerant than other programmes as far as the structure of the waypoint data is concerned. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackharpenden Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Strange - I always thought the N stands for North. It does stand for north; however, the reason that an association to this style (5520N or 55/20) can be made to the North Atlantic is because the 5 digit style waypoints are known as North Atlantic "points". These are only used for waypoints which are North and West of the equator and meridian respectively. A normal reduced length coordinate is 6 digits long, e.g. 55N20W, 20S40E, 44S32W. Jack ----------------------------------------------------- Edit: Next post removed, as I misread Peter's post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheair Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 "Strange - I always thought the N stands for North" and it does except in the EFB manual (page 10) for the reason Jack has just given above for your information, do you know that ? north hemisphere : 4908E = N49° E008° 49E08 = N49° E108° 4908N = N49° W008° 49N08 = N49° W108° south hemisphere : 4908S = S49° E008° 49S08 = S49° E108° 4908W = S49° W008° 49W08 = S49° W108° all of them are valid EFB fixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackharpenden Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 for your information, do you know that ? north hemisphere : 4908E = N49° E008° 49E08 = N49° E108° 4908N = N49° W008° 49N08 = N49° W108° south hemisphere : 4908S = S49° E008° 49S08 = S49° E108° 4908W = S49° W008° 49W08 = S49° W108° all of them are valid EFB fixes Jean-Louis, I've always known that yes, they're ICAO short coordinates. When I first saw them I found them quite confusing to get my head around. Your examples could also be written in the slightly longer form too, e.g. 49W08=49N108W. There are lots of ways to write coordinates Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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