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    Adding SIDSTARS to VHHX Kai Tak

    in EFB v1 (Read only, no longer supported)

    Posted

    Hi Travis and Jean Louis,

     

    All the navdata changes are the same for Aivlasoft and PMDG. The difference with Jim Viles freeware scenery is the positioning of the airport and various fixes.

     

    Also the SIDSTARS file for the PMDG has a slightly different format than the Aivlasoft SIDSTARS file. (See fixes and approaches sections in notepad and compare, you will see and hopefully understand)

     

    I added a file with the correct "howw to" Navdata for both PMDG and Aivlasoft for the FLyTampa scenery. Also I added both SIDSTARS files. These should both be renamed to VHHX after pasting them in the respective SIDSTARS subfolders of the PMDG and Aivlasoft folders in the main FSX folder (..\prog files(x86)\ms games\ms FSX\PMDG or Aivlasoft).

     

    Hope this will get you an nice approach into Kai Tak. Have fun : )

     

    dion

    Adding SIDSTARS to VHHX Kai Tak

    in EFB v1 (Read only, no longer supported)

    Posted

    Hi Travis,

     

    I tested and updated your file so now it works correct with FLY TAMPA KAI TAK scenery as well. All data is freeware from the Fly Tampa forum and comes from Jim Vile as far as I know the same person who made the freeware VHHX BGLs (the AVSIM download).

    For PMDG these data should probably be used. Maybe the approaches section in the SIDSTARS should be left alone though...

    Next test will be to get the Aivlasoft generated RT2 routefiles for KAI TAK to work in the PMDG MD-11. thusfar i get the message unable to load flightplan...

     

    I added my file to be downloaded. Maybe you can merge it with your file and delete my other post with all the numbers which might be confusing ;)

     

    thanks for all your help, dion

    Adding SIDSTARS to VHHX Kai Tak

    in EFB v1 (Read only, no longer supported)

    Posted

    Hi Travis,

     

    I just flew the IGS13CC approach with the PMDG MD-11. The PMDG data i used contained your numbers, as did the data from Aivlasoft.

    In the approach the approach course in the ND showed 088, which is correct, while the Aivlasoft route on the chart shows 090. Does this mean that by placing the OM more Southernly (maybe also Easterly) and the MM more Northerly in the Navdata the course displayed will be more North to East?

    I'll have another look at it, but hope you're there already :D

     

    dion

    Adding SIDSTARS to VHHX Kai Tak

    in EFB v1 (Read only, no longer supported)

    Posted

    Hi Travis, thanks for the quick reply,

     

    I have been testing myself and it works. I am going to try your numbers as i am heving problems with the correct diplay of the IGS approach arrow in the chart, whicch is slightly above and to the right of the RW NDB. Also the aproach course should be 088, which it is in the aircraft, but on the map it is shown as 090. Maybe you know why? I thought because of magnetic variation correction at first, but those are Westerly according to the chart and not to the East?

    I a have already updated to the 1.2 version. Whatever comes form this i want to thank you for this great piece of software :D

     

    Thanks,

    dion

     

     

    So the following lines have to be added in these files in the ..\MS FS\aivlasoft\navdata folder (all info comes from free downloads):

     

    • navaid file
       
      IGS LLZ/DME RWY 13 KL ILSD 22.003299 114.104167111.90T
      LLZ/DME RWY 31 IIHK ILSD 22.324500 114.193667109.90T
      CH36X GP NDB 22.326667 114.191333333.00N
      HONG KONG INTL RW NDB 22.326667 114.191333337.00N
      IGS RWY 13 GP NDB 22.326833 114.092500331.00N

     

     

    • navapt file
       
      PMDG:
      HONG KONG KAI TAK VHHX13 10930136 22.321667 114.196667111.9008800015
      HONG KONG KAI TAK VHHX31 10930316 22.305500 114.214500109.9031600015
       
      AIVLASOFT:
      HONG KONG-OLD VHHX13 10930136 22.326667 114.191887111.9008800015
      HONG KONG-OLD VHHX31 10930316 22.309570 114.209178109.9031600015


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      The txt underneath can be downloaded at the Navdata site for free. You could also paste this into notepad, and save as VHHX in the ..\MS FS\Aivlasoft\SIDSTARS folder
       
      //LOOK at the Approaches section, I added 1770 after OM and 660 after MM.
      // This will get us the VNAV profile in the chart : )
       
      [list=]SIDSTARS free download at Navdata
       
      // VHHX - HONG KONG KAITAK INTL
      // Copyrighted 17/7/2006 by Gary Law, Jacky Wan
      // Edited 12/7/2007 by Thomas Lau: Gates Added
      // Data from 10/9/1997.
      // If your FMC displayed "NOT IN DATABASE" this sentence or any other error, please visit this website:
      //
    http://www.hkadb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11099
     
    FIXES
    FIX A LATLON N 22 16.200 E 115 08.600
    FIX C LATLON N 21 17.480 E 113 36.300
    FIX D LATLON N 21 20.060 E 114 31.480
    FIX G LATLON N 22 12.550 E 113 54.180
    FIX J LATLON N 22 19.490 E 114 28.540
    FIX K LATLON N 21 52.300 E 114 41.300
    FIX L LATLON N 22 08.071 E 114 24.230
    FIX M LATLON N 21 17.800 E 113 15.600
    FIX N LATLON N 22 17.400 E 115 11.400
    FIX O LATLON N 21 51.018 E 114 14.252
    FIX Q LATLON N 21 19.800 E 114 43.700
    FIX T LATLON N 21 12.200 E 113 43.600
    FIX W LATLON N 22 01.599 E 114 30.360
    FIX D15 LATLON N 22 19.008 E 113 55.516
    FIX OM13 LATLON N 22 19.404 E 114 06.009
    FIX MM13 LATLON N 22 19.574 E 114 10.209
     
    FIX CH LATLON N 22 13.200 E 114 01.800
    FIX CC LATLON N 22 12.100 E 114 01.600
    FIX TH LATLON N 22 14.300 E 114 17.300
    FIX SC LATLON N 22 19.200 E 114 07.900
    FIX RW LATLON N 22 19.600 E 114 11.500
    FIX SL LATLON N 22 17.500 E 113 54.400
     
    FIX BEKOL LATLON N 22 32.360 E 114 07.590
    FIX DAGON LATLON N 19 00.000 E 111 48.180
    FIX DOTMI LATLON N 22 43.060 E 116 10.050
    FIX DUMOL LATLON N 19 00.000 E 114 23.180
    FIX ELATO LATLON N 22 19.600 E 117 30.000
    FIX ENVAR LATLON N 21 59.500 E 117 30.000
    FIX EPDOS LATLON N 19 00.0 E 113 33.3
    FIX IDOSI LATLON N 19 00.000 E 112 30.000
    FIX KAPLI LATLON N 21 10.000 E 117 30.000
    FIX KILOG LATLON N 21 52.270 E 114 41.370
    FIX MAGOG LATLON N 22 17.460 E 115 49.300
    FIX NOMAN LATLON N 20 00.000 E 116 40.300
    FIX SABNO LATLON N 18 59.100 E 115 50.700
    FIX SIKOU LATLON N 20 50.360 E 111 30.000
    FIX TAMOT LATLON N 22 21.500 E 113 52.000
     
    FIX CH055 LATLON N 22 17.046 E 114 05.208
    FIX CH010 LATLON N 22 06.046 E 113 54.113
    FIX CH001 LATLON N 21 43.140 E 115 44.290
    FIX CH013 LATLON N 21 40.497 E 114 42.544
    FIX CH021 LATLON N 21 30.344 E 113 33.222
    FIX CH015 LATLON N 21 28.499 E 114 26.571
    FIX CH020 LATLON N 21 26.574 E 113 40.505
    FIX CH019 LATLON N 21 23.286 E 113 54.197
    FIX CH017 LATLON N 21 23.218 E 114 08.187
    FIX CH002 LATLON N 21 08.170 E 115 23.420
    FIX CH004 LATLON N 20 47.560 E 113 05.120
    FIX CH003 LATLON N 20 44.250 E 114 51.500
     
    FIX CC7 COLOCATED CC 270 7
     
    FIX CH100 COLOCATED CH 104 100
    FIX CH117 COLOCATED CH 117 100
    FIX CH132 COLOCATED CH 132 100
    FIX CH175 COLOCATED CH 175 100
    FIX CH190 COLOCATED CH 190 100
    FIX CH199 COLOCATED CH 199 100
    FIX CH214 COLOCATED CH 214 100
    ENDFIXES
     
    RNWS
    RNW 13
    RNW 31
    ENDRNWS
     
    SIDS
    SID BEKOL1A FIX BEKOL
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX OVERFLY L AT OR BELOW 7000 DIRECT FIX J 7000 FIX BEKOL AT OR ABOVE 11800
    SID BEKOL2C FIX BEKOL
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 TRK 154 UNTIL 9000 TURN LEFT FIX TH 11000 FIX BEKOL AT OR ABOVE 11800
     
    SID DAGON1A FIX DAGON
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 199 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH199 FIX DAGON
    SID DAGON1B FIX DAGON
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 214 FROM NAVAID CH FIX DAGON
    SID DAGON2C FIX DAGON
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH199 FIX DAGON
    SID DAGON2D FIX DAGON
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX DAGON
     
    SID DOTMI1A FIX DOTMI
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX DOTMI
    SID DOTMI2C FIX DOTMI
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX DOTMI
     
    SID ELATO1A FIX ELATO
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX ELATO
    SID ELATO2C FIX ELATO
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX ELATO
     
    SID ENVAR1A FIX ENVAR
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 FIX KILOG AT OR BELOW 14000 FIX ENVAR
    SID ENVAR2C FIX ENVAR
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O 9000 FIX KILOG AT OR BELOW 14000 FIX ENVAR
     
    SID EPDOS1A FIX EPDOS
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX EPDOS
    SID EPDOS2C FIX EPDOS
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX EPDOS
     
    SID IDOSI1A FIX IDOSI
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH190 FIX IDOSI
    SID IDOSI1B FIX IDOSI
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 205 FROM NAVAID CH FIX IDOSI
    SID IDOSI2C FIX IDOSI
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH190 FIX IDOSI
    SID IDOSI2D FIX IDOSI
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX IDOSI
     
    SID NOMAN1A FIX NOMAN
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 136 INTERCEPT RADIAL 117 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH117 FIX NOMAN
    SID NOMAN1B FIX NOMAN
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX NOMAN
    SID NOMAN2C FIX NOMAN
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 117 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH117 FIX NOMAN
    SID NOMAN2D FIX NOMAN
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX NOMAN
     
    SID SABNO1A FIX SABNO
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH132 FIX SABNO
    SID SABNO1B FIX SABNO
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 154 FROM NAVAID CH FIX SABNO
    SID SABNO2C FIX SABNO
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH175 FIX SABNO
    SID SABNO2D FIX SABNO
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 FIX SABNO
     
    SID SIKOU1A FIX SIKOU
    RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX OVERFLY CH190 DIRECT FIX SIKOU
    SID SIKOU2C FIX SIKOU
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OVERFLY CH190 DIRECT FIX SIKOU
    SID SIKOU2E FIX SIKOU
    RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OVERFLY CH214 DIRECT FIX SIKOU
    ENDSIDS
     
    STARS
    STAR MAGOG FIX MAGOG FIX A AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH
    RNW 13
    STAR MAGOG31 FIX MAGOG FIX A AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L
    RNW 31
     
    STAR NOMAN FIX NOMAN FIX CH
    RNW 13 RNW 31
    STAR NOMAN31 FIX NOMAN FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L
    RNW 31
    STAR SABNO FIX SABNO FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH
    RNW 13 RNW 31
    STAR SABNO31 FIX SABNO FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L
    RNW 31
    STAR DUMOL FIX DUMOL FIX CH
    RNW 13 RNW 31
    STAR DUMOL31 FIX DUMOL FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L
    RNW 31
    STAR IDOSI FIX IDOSI FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH
    RNW 13 RNW 31
    STAR IDOSI31 FIX IDOSI FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L
    RNW 31
    STAR DAGON FIX DAGON FIX CH
    RNW 13 RNW 31
    STAR DAGON31 FIX DAGON FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L
    RNW 31
    STAR SIKOU FIX SIKOU FIX CH
    RNW 13 RNW 31
    STAR SIKOU31 FIX SIKOU FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L
    RNW 31
    STAR TAMOT FIX TAMOT FIX OVERFLY M DIRECT FIX C 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH
    RNW 13
    STAR TAMOT31 FIX TAMOT FIX OVERFLY M DIRECT FIX C 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L
    RNW 31
    ENDSTARS
     
    APPROACHES
    APPROACH IGS13 FIX CH 8000 FIX OVERFLY G 6000 SPEED 180 DIRECT FIX SL FIX D15 4500 FIX OM13 AT or ABOVE 1770 FIX MM13 AT OR ABOVE 660 FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1
    APPROACH IGS13CC FIX CC 8000 FIX OVERFLY CC7 6000 SPEED 180 DIRECT FIX SL FIX D15 4500 FIX OM13 1770 FIX MM13 660 FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1
    APPROACH VISUAL13 FIX CH 4500 FIX OVERFLY SC DIRECT FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1
    APPROACH ILS31 FIX L 4500 FIX TH 2000 RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH HOLD AT FIX CH LEFT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 270 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1
    ENDAPPROACHES
     
    GATES
    // PASSENGER APRON
    GATE 1 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.6
    GATE 2 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.7
    GATE 3 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7
    GATE 4 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7
    GATE 5 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7
    GATE 6 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8
    GATE 7 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8
    GATE 8 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8
    GATE 15 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.7
    GATE 16 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8
    GATE 17 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8
    GATE 18 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.8
    GATE 19 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.8
    GATE 20 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.9
    GATE 21 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8
    GATE 22 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8
    GATE 23 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8
    GATE 24 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9
    GATE 25 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9
    GATE 26 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9
    GATE 27 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8
    GATE 28 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8
    GATE 29 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.9
    GATE 30 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9
    GATE 31 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9
    GATE 32 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.0
    GATE 33 N 22 19.3 E 114 11.9
    GATE 34 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.0
    GATE 35 N 22 19.4 E 114 12.0
    GATE 36 N 22 19.4 E 114 12.0
    GATE 37 N 22 19.5 E 114 12.0
    GATE 38 N 22 19.5 E 114 12.0
    GATE 71 N 22 19.0 E 114 12.2
    GATE 72 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2
    GATE 73 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2
    GATE 74 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2
    GATE 75 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.3
    GATE 76 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.3
    GATE 77 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.4
    GATE 78 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.4
    GATE 79 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.4
    GATE 80 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.4
    GATE 81 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.5
    // MAINTENANCE APRON
    GATE M1 N 22 19.9 E 114 12.0
    GATE M2 N 22 19.9 E 114 12.1
    GATE M3 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.2
    GATE M4 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.0
    GATE M5 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1
    GATE M6 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1
    // CARGO APRON
    GATE Z41 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.1
    GATE Z43 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.1
    GATE Z44 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.2
    GATE Z45 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2
    GATE Z46 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2
    // Parking APRON
    GATE 47 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.2
    GATE 48 N 22 20.1 E 114 12.2
    GATE 49 N 22 20.1 E 114 12.2
    GATE 50 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5
    GATE 51 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.5
    GATE 52 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.5
    GATE 53 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5
    GATE 54 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5
    GATE 55 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5
    GATE 56 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5
    GATE 57 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5
    GATE 58 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5
    GATE 59 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5
    GATE 60 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5
    ENDGATE

    Adding SIDSTARS to VHHX Kai Tak

    in EFB v1 (Read only, no longer supported)

    Posted

    Is there any way to add the SidStars for Kai Tak, especially the IGS13 approach with the outer and middle marker fixes (CC CH SL OM MM (SC) RWY13). Can this maybe be done by transferring the data there is for PMDG aircraft to the datafiles of Aivlasoft EFB?

    I read the other post about having to do this every other navdata update, but that's also the case for the PMDg airac update, so I don't mind...

    In the meantime i will try myself hoping i do not break anything :P

     

    Thanks, dion

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