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  1. Hi Travis and Jean Louis, All the navdata changes are the same for Aivlasoft and PMDG. The difference with Jim Viles freeware scenery is the positioning of the airport and various fixes. Also the SIDSTARS file for the PMDG has a slightly different format than the Aivlasoft SIDSTARS file. (See fixes and approaches sections in notepad and compare, you will see and hopefully understand) I added a file with the correct "howw to" Navdata for both PMDG and Aivlasoft for the FLyTampa scenery. Also I added both SIDSTARS files. These should both be renamed to VHHX after pasting them in the respective SIDSTARS subfolders of the PMDG and Aivlasoft folders in the main FSX folder (..\prog files(x86)\ms games\ms FSX\PMDG or Aivlasoft). Hope this will get you an nice approach into Kai Tak. Have fun : ) dion
  2. Hi Travis, I tested and updated your file so now it works correct with FLY TAMPA KAI TAK scenery as well. All data is freeware from the Fly Tampa forum and comes from Jim Vile as far as I know the same person who made the freeware VHHX BGLs (the AVSIM download). For PMDG these data should probably be used. Maybe the approaches section in the SIDSTARS should be left alone though... Next test will be to get the Aivlasoft generated RT2 routefiles for KAI TAK to work in the PMDG MD-11. thusfar i get the message unable to load flightplan... I added my file to be downloaded. Maybe you can merge it with your file and delete my other post with all the numbers which might be confusing thanks for all your help, dion
  3. Hi Travis, This is great, many thanks! I'm going to try to get this to work immediately. More thanks dion
  4. Hi Travis, I just flew the IGS13CC approach with the PMDG MD-11. The PMDG data i used contained your numbers, as did the data from Aivlasoft. In the approach the approach course in the ND showed 088, which is correct, while the Aivlasoft route on the chart shows 090. Does this mean that by placing the OM more Southernly (maybe also Easterly) and the MM more Northerly in the Navdata the course displayed will be more North to East? I'll have another look at it, but hope you're there already dion
  5. Hi Travis, thanks for the quick reply, I have been testing myself and it works. I am going to try your numbers as i am heving problems with the correct diplay of the IGS approach arrow in the chart, whicch is slightly above and to the right of the RW NDB. Also the aproach course should be 088, which it is in the aircraft, but on the map it is shown as 090. Maybe you know why? I thought because of magnetic variation correction at first, but those are Westerly according to the chart and not to the East? I a have already updated to the 1.2 version. Whatever comes form this i want to thank you for this great piece of software Thanks, dion So the following lines have to be added in these files in the ..\MS FS\aivlasoft\navdata folder (all info comes from free downloads): navaid file IGS LLZ/DME RWY 13 KL ILSD 22.003299 114.104167111.90T LLZ/DME RWY 31 IIHK ILSD 22.324500 114.193667109.90T CH36X GP NDB 22.326667 114.191333333.00N HONG KONG INTL RW NDB 22.326667 114.191333337.00N IGS RWY 13 GP NDB 22.326833 114.092500331.00N navapt file PMDG: HONG KONG KAI TAK VHHX13 10930136 22.321667 114.196667111.9008800015 HONG KONG KAI TAK VHHX31 10930316 22.305500 114.214500109.9031600015 AIVLASOFT: HONG KONG-OLD VHHX13 10930136 22.326667 114.191887111.9008800015 HONG KONG-OLD VHHX31 10930316 22.309570 114.209178109.9031600015 The txt underneath can be downloaded at the Navdata site for free. You could also paste this into notepad, and save as VHHX in the ..\MS FS\Aivlasoft\SIDSTARS folder //LOOK at the Approaches section, I added 1770 after OM and 660 after MM. // This will get us the VNAV profile in the chart : ) [list=]SIDSTARS free download at Navdata // VHHX - HONG KONG KAITAK INTL // Copyrighted 17/7/2006 by Gary Law, Jacky Wan // Edited 12/7/2007 by Thomas Lau: Gates Added // Data from 10/9/1997. // If your FMC displayed "NOT IN DATABASE" this sentence or any other error, please visit this website: // http://www.hkadb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11099 FIXES FIX A LATLON N 22 16.200 E 115 08.600 FIX C LATLON N 21 17.480 E 113 36.300 FIX D LATLON N 21 20.060 E 114 31.480 FIX G LATLON N 22 12.550 E 113 54.180 FIX J LATLON N 22 19.490 E 114 28.540 FIX K LATLON N 21 52.300 E 114 41.300 FIX L LATLON N 22 08.071 E 114 24.230 FIX M LATLON N 21 17.800 E 113 15.600 FIX N LATLON N 22 17.400 E 115 11.400 FIX O LATLON N 21 51.018 E 114 14.252 FIX Q LATLON N 21 19.800 E 114 43.700 FIX T LATLON N 21 12.200 E 113 43.600 FIX W LATLON N 22 01.599 E 114 30.360 FIX D15 LATLON N 22 19.008 E 113 55.516 FIX OM13 LATLON N 22 19.404 E 114 06.009 FIX MM13 LATLON N 22 19.574 E 114 10.209 FIX CH LATLON N 22 13.200 E 114 01.800 FIX CC LATLON N 22 12.100 E 114 01.600 FIX TH LATLON N 22 14.300 E 114 17.300 FIX SC LATLON N 22 19.200 E 114 07.900 FIX RW LATLON N 22 19.600 E 114 11.500 FIX SL LATLON N 22 17.500 E 113 54.400 FIX BEKOL LATLON N 22 32.360 E 114 07.590 FIX DAGON LATLON N 19 00.000 E 111 48.180 FIX DOTMI LATLON N 22 43.060 E 116 10.050 FIX DUMOL LATLON N 19 00.000 E 114 23.180 FIX ELATO LATLON N 22 19.600 E 117 30.000 FIX ENVAR LATLON N 21 59.500 E 117 30.000 FIX EPDOS LATLON N 19 00.0 E 113 33.3 FIX IDOSI LATLON N 19 00.000 E 112 30.000 FIX KAPLI LATLON N 21 10.000 E 117 30.000 FIX KILOG LATLON N 21 52.270 E 114 41.370 FIX MAGOG LATLON N 22 17.460 E 115 49.300 FIX NOMAN LATLON N 20 00.000 E 116 40.300 FIX SABNO LATLON N 18 59.100 E 115 50.700 FIX SIKOU LATLON N 20 50.360 E 111 30.000 FIX TAMOT LATLON N 22 21.500 E 113 52.000 FIX CH055 LATLON N 22 17.046 E 114 05.208 FIX CH010 LATLON N 22 06.046 E 113 54.113 FIX CH001 LATLON N 21 43.140 E 115 44.290 FIX CH013 LATLON N 21 40.497 E 114 42.544 FIX CH021 LATLON N 21 30.344 E 113 33.222 FIX CH015 LATLON N 21 28.499 E 114 26.571 FIX CH020 LATLON N 21 26.574 E 113 40.505 FIX CH019 LATLON N 21 23.286 E 113 54.197 FIX CH017 LATLON N 21 23.218 E 114 08.187 FIX CH002 LATLON N 21 08.170 E 115 23.420 FIX CH004 LATLON N 20 47.560 E 113 05.120 FIX CH003 LATLON N 20 44.250 E 114 51.500 FIX CC7 COLOCATED CC 270 7 FIX CH100 COLOCATED CH 104 100 FIX CH117 COLOCATED CH 117 100 FIX CH132 COLOCATED CH 132 100 FIX CH175 COLOCATED CH 175 100 FIX CH190 COLOCATED CH 190 100 FIX CH199 COLOCATED CH 199 100 FIX CH214 COLOCATED CH 214 100 ENDFIXES RNWS RNW 13 RNW 31 ENDRNWS SIDS SID BEKOL1A FIX BEKOL RNW 13 FIX TH FIX OVERFLY L AT OR BELOW 7000 DIRECT FIX J 7000 FIX BEKOL AT OR ABOVE 11800 SID BEKOL2C FIX BEKOL RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 TRK 154 UNTIL 9000 TURN LEFT FIX TH 11000 FIX BEKOL AT OR ABOVE 11800 SID DAGON1A FIX DAGON RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 199 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH199 FIX DAGON SID DAGON1B FIX DAGON RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 214 FROM NAVAID CH FIX DAGON SID DAGON2C FIX DAGON RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH199 FIX DAGON SID DAGON2D FIX DAGON RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX DAGON SID DOTMI1A FIX DOTMI RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX DOTMI SID DOTMI2C FIX DOTMI RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX DOTMI SID ELATO1A FIX ELATO RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX ELATO SID ELATO2C FIX ELATO RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH100 FIX ELATO SID ENVAR1A FIX ENVAR RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 FIX KILOG AT OR BELOW 14000 FIX ENVAR SID ENVAR2C FIX ENVAR RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O 9000 FIX KILOG AT OR BELOW 14000 FIX ENVAR SID EPDOS1A FIX EPDOS RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX EPDOS SID EPDOS2C FIX EPDOS RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX EPDOS SID IDOSI1A FIX IDOSI RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH190 FIX IDOSI SID IDOSI1B FIX IDOSI RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 205 FROM NAVAID CH FIX IDOSI SID IDOSI2C FIX IDOSI RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH190 FIX IDOSI SID IDOSI2D FIX IDOSI RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX IDOSI SID NOMAN1A FIX NOMAN RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 136 INTERCEPT RADIAL 117 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH117 FIX NOMAN SID NOMAN1B FIX NOMAN RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX NOMAN SID NOMAN2C FIX NOMAN RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 117 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH117 FIX NOMAN SID NOMAN2D FIX NOMAN RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX NOMAN SID SABNO1A FIX SABNO RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH132 FIX SABNO SID SABNO1B FIX SABNO RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 INTERCEPT RADIAL 154 FROM NAVAID CH FIX SABNO SID SABNO2C FIX SABNO RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX CH175 FIX SABNO SID SABNO2D FIX SABNO RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX O AT OR BELOW 9000 FIX SABNO SID SIKOU1A FIX SIKOU RNW 13 FIX TH FIX W TRK 235 INTERCEPT RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH FIX OVERFLY CH190 DIRECT FIX SIKOU SID SIKOU2C FIX SIKOU RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OVERFLY CH190 DIRECT FIX SIKOU SID SIKOU2E FIX SIKOU RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH FIX CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OVERFLY CH214 DIRECT FIX SIKOU ENDSIDS STARS STAR MAGOG FIX MAGOG FIX A AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH RNW 13 STAR MAGOG31 FIX MAGOG FIX A AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31 STAR NOMAN FIX NOMAN FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31 STAR NOMAN31 FIX NOMAN FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31 STAR SABNO FIX SABNO FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31 STAR SABNO31 FIX SABNO FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31 STAR DUMOL FIX DUMOL FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31 STAR DUMOL31 FIX DUMOL FIX D AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31 STAR IDOSI FIX IDOSI FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31 STAR IDOSI31 FIX IDOSI FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31 STAR DAGON FIX DAGON FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31 STAR DAGON31 FIX DAGON FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31 STAR SIKOU FIX SIKOU FIX CH RNW 13 RNW 31 STAR SIKOU31 FIX SIKOU FIX C AT OR BELOW 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31 STAR TAMOT FIX TAMOT FIX OVERFLY M DIRECT FIX C 15000 SPEED 250 FIX CH RNW 13 STAR TAMOT31 FIX TAMOT FIX OVERFLY M DIRECT FIX C 15000 SPEED 250 FIX L RNW 31 ENDSTARS APPROACHES APPROACH IGS13 FIX CH 8000 FIX OVERFLY G 6000 SPEED 180 DIRECT FIX SL FIX D15 4500 FIX OM13 AT or ABOVE 1770 FIX MM13 AT OR ABOVE 660 FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1 APPROACH IGS13CC FIX CC 8000 FIX OVERFLY CC7 6000 SPEED 180 DIRECT FIX SL FIX D15 4500 FIX OM13 1770 FIX MM13 660 FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1 APPROACH VISUAL13 FIX CH 4500 FIX OVERFLY SC DIRECT FIX RW RNW 13 HOLD AT FIX TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1 APPROACH ILS31 FIX L 4500 FIX TH 2000 RNW 31 FIX RW FIX SC TRK 251 INTERCEPT RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH HOLD AT FIX CH LEFT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 270 ALT 4500 SPEED 230 LEGTIME 1 ENDAPPROACHES GATES // PASSENGER APRON GATE 1 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.6 GATE 2 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.7 GATE 3 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7 GATE 4 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7 GATE 5 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7 GATE 6 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8 GATE 7 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8 GATE 8 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8 GATE 15 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.7 GATE 16 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8 GATE 17 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8 GATE 18 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.8 GATE 19 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.8 GATE 20 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.9 GATE 21 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8 GATE 22 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8 GATE 23 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8 GATE 24 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9 GATE 25 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9 GATE 26 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9 GATE 27 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8 GATE 28 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8 GATE 29 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.9 GATE 30 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9 GATE 31 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9 GATE 32 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.0 GATE 33 N 22 19.3 E 114 11.9 GATE 34 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.0 GATE 35 N 22 19.4 E 114 12.0 GATE 36 N 22 19.4 E 114 12.0 GATE 37 N 22 19.5 E 114 12.0 GATE 38 N 22 19.5 E 114 12.0 GATE 71 N 22 19.0 E 114 12.2 GATE 72 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2 GATE 73 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2 GATE 74 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2 GATE 75 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.3 GATE 76 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.3 GATE 77 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.4 GATE 78 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.4 GATE 79 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.4 GATE 80 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.4 GATE 81 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.5 // MAINTENANCE APRON GATE M1 N 22 19.9 E 114 12.0 GATE M2 N 22 19.9 E 114 12.1 GATE M3 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.2 GATE M4 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.0 GATE M5 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1 GATE M6 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1 // CARGO APRON GATE Z41 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.1 GATE Z43 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.1 GATE Z44 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.2 GATE Z45 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2 GATE Z46 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2 // Parking APRON GATE 47 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.2 GATE 48 N 22 20.1 E 114 12.2 GATE 49 N 22 20.1 E 114 12.2 GATE 50 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5 GATE 51 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.5 GATE 52 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.5 GATE 53 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5 GATE 54 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5 GATE 55 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5 GATE 56 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5 GATE 57 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5 GATE 58 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5 GATE 59 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5 GATE 60 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.5 ENDGATE
  6. Is there any way to add the SidStars for Kai Tak, especially the IGS13 approach with the outer and middle marker fixes (CC CH SL OM MM (SC) RWY13). Can this maybe be done by transferring the data there is for PMDG aircraft to the datafiles of Aivlasoft EFB? I read the other post about having to do this every other navdata update, but that's also the case for the PMDg airac update, so I don't mind... In the meantime i will try myself hoping i do not break anything Thanks, dion
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