BaldyB
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14 minutes ago, bobsk8 said:
Reinstalling Client was the only solution, no other way to get it to update, unless you have a way, if this happens again.
I just updated the Server and then the client. Did not reboot either one. I had a flight from KMCO to KLAS pre-loaded from last night. Everything worked flawlessly. The flight come up and all ready to go. I let EFB2 install itself into its default/suggested directory's. Could that be a fault?
Regards
BaldyB
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3 hours ago, lonewulf47 said:
Great to hear that it works now. No, it was not the update. EFB v2 is running on numerous systems without a glitch. Even here in my office on two different systems. Dont' worry, the coders of EFB v2 are professionals...
I was kidding.
Regards
BaldyB
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4 hours ago, lonewulf47 said:
Sorry, I still don't get what you are doing - especially not the order you do things. The way you describe it is very confusing e.g.: "after that it runs fine and sees FSUIPC"... The Server does not see FSUIPC in any way as long as the Simulator is not running. According to your description the Simulator is NOT running at that time.
Another one: " The clients after a few DB re-builds because the DB does not agree with the simulator then seems to work"... The Clients do in no way any check against the Simulator's database. This is purely the Server's task. And so on, and so on ....
It is almost impossible to find out, how and what things are happening on your computer.
So let's start from scratch again: Please do me a favour and do the things exactly in the order I describe now:
1. Start the Simulator. Place a default A/C at a suitable airpport (no matter which)
2. Make sure the Simulator has fully loaded and the A/C is at the desired position
3. Start the Server
4. Start the Client (please ATM only use one Client, best would be the one on your Simulator machine
5. When everything has loaded, wait a few minutes and then proceed to Shutdown EFB v2 and finally the Simulator
6. When everythin has properly closed down got to Windows Start Menu and select "AivlaSoft/EFB2 Create Support files"
This will open a command window. When the tasks are done, close the task window
You will find now two zipped files on your dektop, one beginning with "Server_" and one Beginning with "Client_", both having the ending ".txt.zip"
Copy those two files into your next contribution to this thread.
We will then have a closerand better look into the what's and whereabouts of your connection problems.
When I launched the server it asked if I wanted to install an update, I did so. I then loaded the Trike, forgot about the time difference so i killed it, couldn't see nutin. I then loaded the 172 changed to daytime. I could see right away something was strange/different. After loading, it worked, the 172 was moving on the display. After loading the UPS 74F and starting a push back I could see it was working great. I'm a happy man! Was it the server update? I tried the 172 the other day and it made no difference.
Didn't mean to be a pain in the butt, but that makes better coders.
Thanks for your help Regards
BaldyB
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15 hours ago, lonewulf47 said:
OK, that's all going a bit criss-cross. I think we should clear things up before going into troubleshooting. The Client NEVER connects to the Simulator, neither directly nor through FSUIPC.
Let's start with the SERVER. It must be on the same machine as the Simulator and FSUIPC (correct version according User Guide) must be installed on the Simulator. When the SERVER is started it tries to connect to the SIMULATOR through FSUIPC and at the same time is listening on the TCP/IP for any CLIENT asking for connection. I do assume at this point that your installation went well and you have built the database.
When the CLIENT is started, it tries to connect to the SERVER via TCP/IP, no matter whether it is on the same computer as the SIMULATOR or not. If it is on a remote Computer (of course in a local network), it will ask for the IP Address of the Computer with the SIMULATOR and the SERVER. If it is on the same computer as the Simulator and the SERVER, you will just tell him in the connection menu and he will find his connection.
The starting order of of the various components (SERVER, CLIENT, SIMULATOR) is free. Whenever all components are running, they will connect automatically, if the setup is correct. To be honest, I have no idea how the state of your installation is and where all components are installed. This needs to be clarified first.
So here are the first two questions:
1. Where is each of the components installed?
2. Is the initial setup completed (building of the database)?
On the Ryzen 1700, I have the client software set to run remotely. On the new machine I have the server + a client and of course the sim. The first time I ran the server it wanted a DB rebuild, thats fine because you need to update Navigraph as well. after that it runs fine and sees FSUIPC. The clients after a few DB re-builds because the DB does not agree with the simulator then seems to work in the sense that it loads with the sidebar saying 747-400 on the ground. but the text is still yellow. I the load the sim and use the same FP for both the sim & client I place the aircraft at the same exact gate depicted by LSZH airport view. All I need to do is a push back, the plane in the sim of course moves the distance I enter into the FMC. The plane in the client does not. The whole setup is as you describe it should be. I carefully followed the sequence of starting things up to fly.
The server behaves just like the EFBv1 version, never a problem once set up properly. OTOH the client doesn't seem to want to see the sim. I know EFB is not a flight planner, but it needs to and Does get the plan into the bag, other wise it wouldn't work, an empty bag would be useless, no? Whatever is supposed to tell or inform the clients regarding the sims movement is broken, no? Otherwise you would see it on the moving map display unit.
I can't explain my problem much better than that. Everything is in place as you say it should be!
Regards
BaldyB
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8 hours ago, lonewulf47 said:
Sorry for asking a bit stupid: Why don't you just taxi around and check the proper connection? There is no reason to start a flight if the connection is not ok. It won't improve even if you fly to New York! if the connection is not ok, the A/C will not move on the map, no matter what map you have selected. And don't forget to always start the Server as Admin! BTW what do you mean by " The side panel indicates it sees the sim"?? If there's a yellow "Simulator" written, it means that it DOESN'T see the Simulator!
It felt so good flying again...
Yes it's Yellow in the side panel, how to fix?
Regards
BaldyB
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On 7/1/2018 at 5:31 PM, mrmad said:
Yeah I know and many have problems also regarding to avsim. I*m 1 of them^^
I have a paid version of FSUIPC. I't running on this machine, both FSUIPC 5 & and Wide. The docs say If memory serves that EFBv2 client will find it if it's on the machine? If all this is true then the display unit should interface/ connect with the simulator, it doesn't. I do see " FSUIPC Successfully connected" line in the server DB when starting it!
We will concur this problem!
Regards
BaldyB
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5 hours ago, Jason said:
Hi Baldy,
I can see when I go into Windows Firewall Advanced Settings and found Outbound rules but nothing shows in there for EFB, but it does show within the Inbound rules Electric Flight Bag - Dataprovider and I'm able to change the ports there.
Sorry for being so dumb lol, Thanks again for your help being offered.
You are not dumb my boy! I'm 83 years old and learn something new every day. I consider myself very lucky. I just wish we still had the AMIGA computer. It had better graphics way back then. I had better free apps then the ones you pay all out doors for today. It had 3 graphic chips, Denise. Agnes and I forget the other one. I named one daughter Denise! It had 9 view ports. The video toaster blew away any video tools you have today. It had a CAD program that anyone could learn in an hour , at least enough to start using it straight away. You could zoom onto a ., yes a dot, and make it large enough to write a ten page letter in it and zoom out and You saw a dot! Zoom back in and you saw the letter /message. Wish I had it during the cold war when I worked with an old ex OSS station chief. You could download the Bible into it and put a coded message in a DOT, let !the Kremlin find that! I used Lattice to program it.
So no my boy, you are not dumb!!! Hell I'm still stuck in Zurich.
Regards
BaldyB
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2 hours ago, bobsk8 said:
Are you using the Simbrief downloader, if not, that is what you are missing, although it doesn't have PATC. .
the flight plan for EFB goes into C;\users\ name\ documents\aivlasoft\EFB2\client\routs
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I set up a flight and it came up in EFB2 exactly as it did in FSX. The flight was from Zurich to EGLL, London. I looked good in the display unit, same runway, 28 to vebit etc. had a nice flight to London but my plane is still in Zurich at gate 44?
I'm going to give it a rest, still wants to rebuild the database every two seconds. The side panel indicates it sees the sim but that's it. Nothing on the display moves?
Good luck
Regards
BaldyB
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28 minutes ago, lonewulf47 said:
Yes, I believe you, thats exactly what EFB v2 does also. In contrary to EFB v1 which used Simconnect as a "linking feature" to the Simulator, EFB v2 uses FSUIPC. However you didn't answer my question about any warnings appearing on the Client pointing to connections problems.
No more connection problems. Everything is working great. My problem is trying to do much at one time like building machines as well as learning the difference between v1and v2. I never did get any warnings except for the port 13 deal. I fixed that and it would not have happened with a purchased license. I created a flight from Zurich to London to get my plane out of there.
You guy's did a great job. I hope I didn't give you the impression that I did not think you did a good job.
Tomorrow I will go into Si Brief and print out the flight fuel load etc. to enter into to TopCat. The basic plan went into the client with no problems, and into PMDG's 74F. I was at the right gate 44. I got it thru my noggin that the plan stays wherever someone put it!
All is well. Thanks again
regards
BaldyB
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1 hour ago, Mr. ATC said:
Looks like you didn't start EFB with admin rights. This will prevent EFB from getting the actual position data from the sim.
Start your simulator and move your aircraft to this airport.
I just did that. But thanks. It dawned on me after reading to many times that EFBv2 leaves your aircraft where ever you stopped the flight, even in mid air. Should have taken the hint a few days ago! Just used Simbrief to generate a plan for PMDG .rte and EFBv2 .efbr to fly to Egll. From their to KBOS. But first I need to network the 2 machines and do some moves to use my rudder pedals and yoke. The new machine has a Ryzen 2700X CPU on an Asus Crosshair VII X470 mother board with 16gb of Gskill 3466 memory I picked up from a buddy who owns a computer shop, I used to own 1/2 of it. I have to say the new machine gives me over 34-38-FPS at KJFK, no OC. The old AMD 8350 Bull Dozer was barley playable. This thing stays within a few frames of INTELS best.
My day job was an Operating Engineer, it was amazing to watch guy's get all screwed up trying to get used to Joy Sticks after running machine with four pedals and levers you had to pull a foot and a half to make things move. Sometimes you have to un-learn old stuff to transition to the new stuff.
EFBv2 is going to be a great program.
Thank again
Regards
BadlyB
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Thanks for your help.
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8 hours ago, lonewulf47 said:
Is EFB v2 ever connected to your Simulator? Do you see any yellow or red message on the right top corner of your Client? Zurich is the FIRST defaut location for EFB v2, if no connection to the Simulator has ever been made. Do You have the proper version of FSUIPC installed?
I have FSUIPC 5 and FSUIPC wide, both paid for. I will look into it. With all do respect, when I fired up EFB v1 the aircraft appeared at wherever or whatever airport the flight plan started/ loaded at. Never a problem, that is a fact.
Regards
BaldyB
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5 hours ago, aivlasoft said:
Sorry, and with all respect, but you are mixing up things. Are we talking about the installer, or are we talking about download of Simbrief flight plans?
Sorry about that. Actually I suppose I touched on both.
1: When I installed on the second machine things went very well. I re-downloaded the Client software to a DVD on the new machine because the old machines Windows Edge browser got corrupted somehow. After installing on the new machine which already had the (for lack of better verbiage ) the old Icon on it), lo and behold this new Ipad type Icon appears on my desktop and it works great.
2: It had been a long time since I was on Simbrief, like about 3 years! After getting back on it and discovering the Downloader and remembering how I could download PMDG and MS's Cesna 172 for my grand son in PLN format at the same time and checking out the Dowloader I tried it and found I could dump both FSX/P3d and .elb files and PNDG's .rte files into their respective directory's with I click made me a happy camper! Works great.
3: The only problem I have now is when I do load a plan into the display unit FSX of course, shows my aircraft at the gate. The display unit shows it in Zurich. The radio tab (I think) tell me my aircraft is not on the airport if I load KMCO to KBOS. When I click on KMCO no aircraft is at the gate where FSX say's it is, it's still in Zurich.
What function can be used to move an aircraft to the Flight plans location. Not sure If it's me or or one of those program errors like I used to make once in a while?
I hope I got it straight for you.
Trust me I like your good works!
Regards
BaldyB
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6 hours ago, Jason said:
Where do I find this TCP port 13? I use Bullguard and the Windows firewall is working but with no knowing how to find the relevant details needed, I'm totally stuck.
Thanks
Jason
I went into windows Internet Fire Wall section and found the outgoing rules section. You will see where you can high lite a slew of programs. Aivlasofoft is one of them along with FSX etc. while in the Allow section you will see an advanced button. After clicking on it you you will see an Option for Ports . use type of port TCP, You then need to type in 13 using the proper format, it give you pointers on doing so.
Hope I helped you!
Regards
BaldyB
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1 minute ago, aivlasoft said:
Title page of the manual "5 EN Client.pdf".
Downloads section
I really don't know what is missing ...
The first set of server client icons looked alike, like the sever one above. Is the one that looks like an IPad an update. I never Downloaded using an icon like the iPad or whatever that is. With the Sim Brief down loader app., I just dumped some FPL files into the PMDG and .ebr, FSX-P3d files into EFBv2 directorys. I find my aircraft in Zurich, cant get it out!
Regards
BaldyB.
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11 hours ago, bobsk8 said:
I use the Simbrief downloader for each flight. I have it set to download to the PMDG NGX, the Majestic Q400, the P3D fligfht plan folder for Active Sky 16's use and PF3, and to EFB version 2 with one click.
I think the Downloader is pretty slick. I bought PFPX, I think SimBrief is every bit as good. The files I put into the EFB2 clients flight plans are .efbr format.
The only problem I now have is finding my airplane in Zurich. With EFBv1 my plane was at the gate where I put it in FSX. I cannot get it out of Zurich. That needs to be fixed. Maybe I'll have to fly it out???
Regards
BaldyB
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3 hours ago, Corretto said:
I'm convinced that the program doesn't want to be demoed. I managed to run it once and loved it, but can't start it anymore in demo mode.
If I wasn't sure that I was going to buy it it would have been uninstalled by now ?
I got the display unit working great now. It wanted to re-install itself over and over and over again. I got a little pi**ed and installed it on top of itself, so to speak. I then noticed a new Icon on the desktop that looked like a phone, I said to myself, what the hell is that? I figured the only way to find out was to click on the damn thing. Allmost fell out of my chair when the display unit came up. I didn't see any icon like that in the docs? I noticed the second time it wanted to extract some files, don't remember needing to do that the first time. urs keeps updating stuff?
Regards
BaldyB
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2 hours ago, lonewulf47 said:
Gentlemen, let's conclude this discussion about exporters : There are none for a few reasons. I know, many of you use the argument "that they were present in v1". Simulation has greatly developed and improved over the last few years, also in tems of Add-Ons and free websites for all kind of Route planning. But the initial statement is this:
EFB v2 is NO (and it never claimed to be) Flight Planning software! Although it has limited planning capabilities for short flights, it is NO Flight Planning software. it is - as its name says - an Electronic Flight Bag containing all sorts of information to conduct a Flight AFTER the routing has been planned.
EFB v2 is a piece of software which uses it's own Flightplan (routing) format like many other Simulator Add-On do. It furthermore allows direct loading (uplink) of Routings in formats such as *.txt, *.pln and holds it's own library of Company routes in *.efbr format.
Why is this funny idea still present, that there seems to be kind of an "obligation" for EFB v2 to offer export facilities for other Add-Ons Filghtplan (routings) format? I repeat it: EFB v2 is NO (and it never claimed to be) Flight Planning software! Would you ask any other Add-On manufacturer that offers an Add-On with it's owh Routing format to provide exporters for other Add-Ons (PMDG, FSL, Aerosoft, Majestic to name only a few)? No, of course you wouldn't. So why do you think EFB v2 seems to be obliged to provide this feature? As it has been previously mentioned, this must be in the hands (and it is!) of the numerous Flightplan (Routing) Creation programs and websites. Most of those Routing Creation Programs offer export provisions for many different formats, some even simultaneously at one click. So again: why should EFB v2 also include this feature, if it is already present in many Flight Planning facilities?
I can't repeat it often enough: EFB v2 is NO Flight Planning software...?
I agree with you. But an EFb with moving maps etc., has to have a way to get the FPL into it's bag.
Hear is the cure to every ones concerns. With Sim Brief you can create a flight plan in .rte and FSX/p3d at the same time. the format download page lists lots of stuff, like PMDG, Aivlasoft, Aerosoft, and a slew of other formats, a whole page or screen full. Since I was on SimBrief's site I noticed they have a new app called the Sim Brief Downloader. Install it and you can use a number of folders that you need. I use PMDG flight Plans and PMDG weather uplink for the FMS. And I found a folder for you guessed it, AIVLASOFT. You can browse into Ailasofts flight plan folder and dump the very same plan that you put in PMDG's FMS format with 1 click. I haven't tried it yet but I know it will work. SimBrief is one hell of a program. I updated Navigraph in it in about 1.5 seconds.
Hope it helps.
Rgards
BaldyB
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1 hour ago, lonewulf47 said:
I couldn't agree more on the "feature praise" for PMDG. So why does nobody ask PMDG to accept other Flightplan formats? Funny enogh, my guess is that nobody would ever dare ? But ok, AivlaSoft should do it then, just because PMDG can't on won't? It's a kind of logic that I can't follow properly.?...
I think I read somewhere that PMDG's unique handling of the mouse control for switches and knobs needed a unique or larger file format interface. .pln was not big enough?
In any event I will find a solution eventually, I do enjoy the challenge of making it as real as it gets, PMDG's saying! Again I mean no disrespect, different company's make different decisions.
Regards
BaldyB
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On 7/4/2018 at 12:39 PM, unc1rlm said:
Got it installed on client machine but how does efb know it's there. I run the topcat from inside efb and I get the message about making sure I have version so and so etc..I will look at it again....outside on my tablet thinking about it. I have version 2.74 or last one topcat did...It's kinda like all the steps you had to go through to integrate it into pfpx because it wouldn't show up in the tabs....
Thanks...
Bob M.
Try rebooting, worked for me.
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On 7/1/2018 at 1:54 PM, Bratwurst22 said:
Hi Urs,
thanks for your Explanation.
But consider twice. FSX/P3D is just a game. Flying around the world is for me just for leisure activities. When you develop EFB for Profi-Pilots or Flight-Students in education - it´s OK.
But it should also have the simple functionalitys for leisure Pilots who don´t want to make complex Flightplanings in PFPX with all the 1000 Parameters.
Why i love EFB 1? - A simple generated Flightplan by PRO-ATC X can be easily imported to EFB and also generated as *.rte for the PMDG FMC.
In EFB 2 there is no simple function like that. For Flightplan Planing and Import/Export to a FMC is only with a second (payable) Tool possible.
I would be very happy, when EFB 2 could be used by leisure pilots like me. A simple Funcion to Import .pln Flightplans and Export as *.rte like the old Version would be great.
Best regards.
Stefan
Your right, the PMDG FMS-FMC will only allow .rte or .rte2 file formats to be recognized, .pln wont work. I have a great deal of respect for urs & team, however, having sat on a few boards I can tell you it could be a poor marketing decision. PMDG IMHO is the premier Aircraft on the market. All the darn knobs etc actually work. The flight dynamics come from Boing engineering. They have a huge following and get a decent price for their products, deservedly so, like urs & company.
Just my thoughts, no offense meant!
Regards
BaldyB
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11 hours ago, bobsk8 said:
I purchased this about 6 months ago. Tried using it, never found good routes where I was flying. Gave up on it and went to Simbrief which is free.
I have not been flying for some time. I got stage 4 cancer,don't pity me! I was on chemo pills that had me in a fog. they didn't work for long. I told the doctor quality of life means more to me than living a few extra years in a fog. I declined the chemo trip and feel 1000% better. Back to getting setup with flying on line again. Building cabinets again on the side! I got EFBv2 working pretty well, with EFBv1 I could get a FLP into PMDG's FMS in .rte or rte2. I now know you can do it with EFBv2.
I just got done going over SimBrief after a long period of time. IMHO Simbrief is the best flight planer going. I bought TopCat and it works perfect. Soimbrief does the same thing as far as I can see. If you leave most of the flight plan parameters on Auto it calculates many things like block fuel etc. I bought the package of TopCat and PFPX and PFPX wont work, when you run as Administrator it wants to reinstall itself over and over again, including with it's update file. SimBrief does a great job with ETOPS and everything else i can see. So, it\s SimBrief for me.
Some things have changed in a few short years.
Regards
BaldyB
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9 minutes ago, hpr said:
By the way: Not sure, but I think the daytime protocol is a little - uhm - old fashioned.
Urs, have you ever considered to use ntp (udp 123) instead?
Perhaps a good idea. Don't know if the rest of the family would go along with the program.
Regards
Baldy
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On 7/4/2018 at 1:33 PM, lonewulf47 said:
yes, of course they do, they also offer (as well as NavDataPro) an AIRAC cycle for the basic installation of EFB v2. But as you might have heard many simmers are nowadays using the most recent AIRAC cycle (as in real world aviation), thus you need to activate the most recent AIRAC cycle (e.g. the actual cycle being 1807, whereas the free Cycle in SimBrief is 1703 or so) also in SimBrief, and this is only possible by a subscription from Navigraph, and ONLY from Navigraph. Hence the restriction for us referring to single source.
When using SimBrief you can save a plan in .rte format. You need that format to get the plan into PMDG's FMC. V1 of EFB allowed you to save the plan in .rte format. I got V2 working pretty good but it doesn't see the PMDG 747f on the ground at KMCO where I put it when I started FSX_SE. I'm still getting used to EFBv2. You certainly can get Navigraph Airac cycles. when I first built a database in EFBv2 it asked where I wanted to store my flight plans. Of course I browsed to PFilesx86\Steam\steamapps\common\PMDG\FlightPlans\747. I see no way to do that in the flight plan docs in the display unit. There has to be a way to get .rte format plans into EFBv2 or save in both .rte and .pln?
If not I don't know if EFBv2 is usable for me.
Regards
BaldyB
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On 7/5/2018 at 3:29 AM, aivlasoft said:
Thank you for your kind words on EFB. Indeed it was a lot of work, but I also want to emphasize that without the great help of Oskar (lonewulf47) it could have never been brought to that level.
I went ahead and installed the server on the new machine. I then noticed A Client on the desktop. It didn't want to work. I d-loaed the client to DVD and installed it and low and behold it worked Simply installed on top of itself, same directory etc. That seemed to jog it somehow because when i finished i bounced right into the clients opening screen. It,s 5:00 AM. Way past my bed time on the other hand I've been retired for 18 years, so who gives a darn. The few minutes I spent with the Client Display renewed my faith in mankind. urs, you and your guy's did a fantastic job!
Many thanks
Baldy
Latest Server update broke EFB
in EFB v2 - Support forum
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Sorry I meant NOT installing into default directories. Glad the guy is up and running! I guess my question is. If you changed paths for any reason would the update try to install into a default directory and lose it's hooks or whatever. Just curious, a buddy of mine did just that and got messed up.