alpha117 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Morning All On a flight from EGBB>LEMD, not online. HAd AI traffic out of the UK and about over southern france noticed that the Traffic had gone off of the map in EFB. Checked 'AI aircraft monitor' and it is blank. AI is still appearing in the ND(PMDG 737). I'm using FS2Crew, if that helps. Advise please Thanks Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Just powered up 'Super Traffic Board 3' just to see if the AI appear there and they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 restarted 'data Provider' and they came back.......very strange, never had that before. Could this be a issue with FS2Crew?? I ask that because before using FS2Crew never had this issue Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG_Flyer Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Hi Clive! Are you using the latest EFB SP?? I'd assume that FS2C would not cause an effect to wipe AI aircraft from EFB, unless FS2C triggers something that would be in the area of the "stuttering" noted in this thread. Even if that were the case, it seems as if the latest EFB Service Pack has accounted for that issue. (But who knows what other issues could be out there? ) Still, the fact that you could restart the DP and have your AI reappear is interesting itself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Travis Yep, using latest SP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapeco Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Same problem here after inst. SP1 Thank for a coming fix Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG_Flyer Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Peter, Does this happen with any aircraft, only with the NGX solo, or with the NGX and FS2C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapeco Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I have do 2 flights with the ngx and fs2crew where i have this problem . Before the efb sp i have no this , but then was the stuttern after runway entry proc, this is fix with the sp. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapeco Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Travis One again, the ai traffic was out of display on efb display ~15min after takoff , before i see it at ground and when i climb. In fs the ai is ok . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG_Flyer Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Well let's narrow down the range of potential causes of this. And no one is "blaming" anything, so let's be careful of what we say. Does this happen in a certain phase of flight? If FS2C is running, what state is it in? And is it Voice- or Button-Control? (I've only used the JS41 and default 737 versions, so please bear with me.) Has anyone had this occur without FS2C for the NXG as well as anyone who has had this occur with any other aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Well let's narrow down the range of potential causes of this. And no one is "blaming" anything, so let's be careful of what we say. Does this happen in a certain phase of flight?........after a certain time, not sure when, but will check on next flight If FS2C is running, what state is it in? And is it Voice- or Button-Control? (I've only used the JS41 and default 737 versions, so please bear with me.)..Voice user here, agian not sure will check on next flight Has anyone had this occur without FS2C for the NXG as well as anyone who has had this occur with any other aircraft. . This has only happened since using FS2C, I've not flown any other plane other than the NGX since FS2C release Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapeco Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 i have remove fsuipc4.812 and reinstall. fsuipc 4.80 and now for me it works. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 i have remove fsuipc4.812 and reinstall. fsuipc 4.80 and now for me it works. Peter I'll try that also thanks Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Running FSUIPC 4.801, climbing out of EGBB everything running OK so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 EFB switched to 'enroute' at FL260 climbing FL360, still everything OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Reached cruize FL360 still all OK. Cabin crew just started service and movie is playing. I'm sure FS2C (US crew), plays more cabin announcements, So, is it FSUIPC latest version at Fault Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 STOP, have now lost AI traffic, except for 2,which are near me; speedbird 458 going to the same place as me (LEMD) and a Scandinavian 6788 going to DAOO. DP only shows these to flights also I will restart DP and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 On DP restart ALL AI is there, very strange AI also in DP AI monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 Finally landed at LEMD (Madrid, Spain); the airport was empty on EFB ground chart. Once again restart of DP fixed it and we had moving traffic. good flight CLive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG_Flyer Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Hmm, if that was a Michael Bay movie, it could have literally scared the skies clear. Ok so what was going on in the minutes prior to the AI disappearing? You were at cruise, maybe playing some audio files? Then the ground chart showed empty on landing?? Did you have aircraft on arrival and approach?? Urs may need to work on an AI logging utility - he's a little tied up this week with outside events, so there may be some time needed on his part to get to this. For now all I can suggest is that everyone logs the phase of flight that these appear in and also try to log what was happening with the aircraft and other addons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 I will do a more detailed log on my next flight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG_Flyer Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Clive, Your detail was fine. It was one log (albeit spread out over multiple posts ) and the more data that we could gather from you and others would help in tracking down the triggering event(s). I'm going on the assumption that it's not FS2C itself, but like the "stuttering" problem that it could be FS2C triggering something in the NGX. Of course I could be totally well off base - it could be FS2C itself or it might even have nothing to do with either. So if after a few flights with FS2C and always losing AI traffic you could do a FS2C-less flight... or even an NGX-less flight... that would help isolate wotintheheckisgoingon. And one more thing... are you using FSX AI or UT2 AI or VoxATC AI?? Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 Travis 'And one more thing... are you using FSX AI or UT2 AI or VoxATC AI??' No on all accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suavi Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hello, I have the same issue. I have NGX, UT2 AI, Aivlasoft 1.3.2 Sp1 and Ngx sp1c in my setup. I installed fs2crew last weekend and noticed that AI traffic disappear in Aivlasoft DU and DP after a while into the flight. Today I did a test on the EDDM - LFMN route. In the first run I enabled and operated fs2crew and AI traffic dropped to 2 aircrafts after passing TULSI which is the beginning of the route and dropped to none later although there were more than 10 AI aircraft in FSX. Afterwards, I repeated the same flight starting at the same zulu time but disabling fs2crew this time. Well, I am at the initial descend phase to LFMN now and still can see many AI traffic arround. So, I think fs2crew triggers something in this issue. UPDATE : After writing down this topic, no traffic remained in the DU whereas 17 in FSX. So, there seems no correlation with fs2crew Just for your information, Best regards, Suavi Akar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 I am also on a 'non' FS2C flight in NGX and so far so good no AI loss. I'm at cruize over the south of france on my way again to Madrid(LEMD) I have changed one other thing; I have removed ALL of 'World of AI' and have installed MY TRaffic X Pro 5.4. (don't tell the wife ) I have 340nm to TOD clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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