bruceb Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 After many repeated attempts to use the trial I give up as I keep getting the cannot connect to an internet time server error. I do have the file AivlaSoft_Efb_V2_0.dlsc in my users.../documents/EFB2/Server/License folder so I gather this is a time out issue and the fix is to keep trying. Further when I check time date in windows control panel I am connected to an internet time server - time.nist.gov. So for how long do you have to keep trying? Five minutes, ten minutes, half an hour. Makes it all a bit impractical to use the trial. Also, is the clock keep ticking for the trial while I try to get this fixed? Thank you. Bruceb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoran Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I usually get a hit within 10 tries with time.nist.gov . Its a sloppy system but I dont think there is another way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 Thanks - yes a very sloppy system indeed. So sloppy I have yet to get it started. But I am puzzled, over the years there have been many other developers who have offered time limited trials but none that I have used have had this issue. Also if my Windows 7 install can connect to time.nist.gov why can't EFB? Bruceb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewulf47 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 it's all described here: https://forum.aivlasoft.com/topic/2813-could-not-reach-any-date-server-port-13/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 17 hours ago, lonewulf47 said: it's all described here: https://forum.aivlasoft.com/topic/2813-could-not-reach-any-date-server-port-13/ Yes I know read all that before posting! Comments in my second post still remain. As things are now the trial is useless. Grateful that you are providing the trial but if you are going to the effort to do this prospective customers need to be able to access it, otherwise what is the point? Am I missing something here is there some other reason why I can't run the trial? Thanks Bruceb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiloJuliett Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 If the port is not the issue, then only the latency of your internet connection or the missing answer of the time server. Unfortunately, this check is required to prevent any abuse or manipulation of the trial period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 Why then is "latency etc" not an issue for my Win 7" - it has no trouble connecting to an internet time server? Also why not just have a limited number of uses trial - 5, 10, 20 whatever instead of limited time? Now after many repeated attempts I can get this to run sometimes but it is still a PITA. However I now have a new problem. When running the DbBuilder I get the following warnings and errors and the client gets stuck loading airports 2018-08-08 13:37:10.762 Error : P48, An item with the same key has already been added. 2018-08-08 13:37:10.765 Warning : P48, C:\Users\Bruce\Documents\fsAerodata Files\Navigation Data\Navaids\scenery\fsad_comms.BGL 2018-08-08 13:37:10.768 Warning : P48 will not be available in EFB database 2018-08-08 13:37:12.989 Error : F23, An item with the same key has already been added. 2018-08-08 13:37:12.993 Warning : F23, C:\Users\Bruce\Documents\fsAerodata Files\Navigation Data\Navaids\scenery\fsad_comms.BGL 2018-08-08 13:37:12.995 Warning : F23 will not be available in EFB database 2018-08-08 13:37:15.565 Error : 37XA, An item with the same key has already been added. 2018-08-08 13:37:15.568 Warning : 37XA, C:\Users\Bruce\Documents\fsAerodata Files\Navigation Data\Navaids\scenery\fsad_comms.BGL 2018-08-08 13:37:15.571 Warning : 37XA will not be available in EFB database 2018-08-08 13:37:33.832 Error : DAOF, An item with the same key has already been added. 2018-08-08 13:37:33.835 Warning : DAOF, C:\Users\Bruce\Documents\fsAerodata Files\Navigation Data\Navaids\scenery\fsad_comms.BGL 2018-08-08 13:37:33.838 Warning : DAOF, C:\Users\Bruce\Documents\fsAerodata Files\Navigation Data\P3D\PROC\scenery\DAOF.BGL 2018-08-08 13:37:33.841 Warning : DAOF will not be available in EFB database Does EFB v2 have a problem with fsAerodata? What is the fix for this? Thanks. Bruceb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just to add to this I have disabled the files related to errors in the log - had to repeat this a number of times as each time the DbBuilder would find new errors - until the DbBuilder finished with no errors. However this hasn't helped as on running the client I get that very annoying alarm and the database loading process stalls at airports. Glad I haven't (yet) paid good money for this thing. Not looking real flash for a prospective purchaser. Meanwhile the trial clock keeps ticking but I can't run the trial. Bruceb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe777 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Have to agree here - I have no confidence that this will not manifest itself as other problems if I were to pay £45 for the full product. Unfortunately, if you are going to provide a demo, ensure it works properly. For that reason, " I'm out " - which is a shame, as it looks quite good. Stick with LittleNavMap - its free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsk8 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Gabe777 said: Have to agree here - I have no confidence that this will not manifest itself as other problems if I were to pay £45 for the full product. Unfortunately, if you are going to provide a demo, ensure it works properly. For that reason, " I'm out " - which is a shame, as it looks quite good. Stick with LittleNavMap - its free. World of difference between Little Nav map and EFB. Like a bicycle and a Ferrari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe777 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Not really. It does nearly everything EFB does. It has come on a long way recently, and combined with the moving map function of Navigraph Charts, I don't think there is any information missing ! I find EFB easier to use though... to be fair. To be honest, I just want to be sure that if I pay for it, there won't be any network nonsense. The demo only worked for 2 days... now it just will not call home to check the license... so ironically, there may well be functionality I am not aware of !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewulf47 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Gabe777 said: Unfortunately, if you are going to provide a demo, ensure it works properly. Thank you for the hint. We would never have guessed that this is necessary...? We learn something new every day! But just as a hint from my side: there is no demo, there is only a full version, and this works in quite a considerable number of installations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe777 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 But clearly, by definition, not all. Demo or Time Limited, you are arguing over semantics: it clearly doesn't work for a lot of people. ... Non pertinent content removed by moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumley Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I had similar issues but I have persevered. Make sure you are starting in Administrator mode (sure you are but just in case). My trial expires in a couple of days and I intend to purchase. I too have the freeware software you are suggesting as an alternative and find EFB grows on you. the 'time server' issues are not issues with the full license but I can understand you wanting to have a good look. I did for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just a slight mea culpa here. The reason the trial client would not run in my case even after fixing all errors in the DbBuilder was due to insufficient disc space on my system drive due to the fact that Windows Update Cleanup has left 9 gig of stuff that I can't seem to remove using Disk Cleanup or Ccleaner. I have managed to delete some other files to leave a gig or so of space and this has been enough to run the EFBv2 trial. Now running side by side comparisons between v1 and v2 and the jury is still out. First impression is that even if I got EFBv2 I would still need EFBv1 and once again like to know if EFBv2 has issues with fsAerodata as most of the errors I had running DbBuilder relate to fsAerdata. Thank you. Bruceb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aivlasoft Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 40 minutes ago, bruceb said: like to know if EFBv2 has issues with fsAerodata It depends on which version of fsAerodata you use. Since cycle 1808 the developer of fsAerodata has fixed some issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsk8 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 7 hours ago, bruceb said: Just a slight mea culpa here. The reason the trial client would not run in my case even after fixing all errors in the DbBuilder was due to insufficient disc space on my system drive due to the fact that Windows Update Cleanup has left 9 gig of stuff that I can't seem to remove using Disk Cleanup or Ccleaner. I have managed to delete some other files to leave a gig or so of space and this has been enough to run the EFBv2 trial. Now running side by side comparisons between v1 and v2 and the jury is still out. First impression is that even if I got EFBv2 I would still need EFBv1 and once again like to know if EFBv2 has issues with fsAerodata as most of the errors I had running DbBuilder relate to fsAerdata. Thank you. Bruceb One Gig of space on your drive, I am really surprised that anything runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiloJuliett Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 13 hours ago, bruceb said: once again like to know if EFBv2 has issues with fsAerodata as most of the errors I had running DbBuilder relate to fsAerdata Ever considered to use the search function? The topic was already discussed - and solved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 I will take these last posts as a "yes" as I use 1712 for fsAerodata but will be updating all my stuff to 1809 when it becomes available. I didn't do a search as disabling the relevant files removed all the errors but I now see that there is an extensive history re FsAerdata on this forum. Bruceb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoran Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 5:38 PM, Gabe777 said: Have to agree here - I have no confidence that this will not manifest itself as other problems if I were to pay £45 for the full product. Unfortunately, if you are going to provide a demo, ensure it works properly. For that reason, " I'm out " - which is a shame, as it looks quite good. Stick with LittleNavMap - its free. wow yes the threads are crawling with failed non demo installations. How strange ..please tell me you realize the full version doesn't require logging onto a time stamp web sight right? right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsk8 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, zoran said: wow yes the threads are crawling with failed non demo installations. How strange ..please tell me you realize the full version doesn't require logging onto a time stamp web sight right? right?? I think the complaints about the demo are by a few compared to all the people that tried the demo. I had an issue with the demo where I had to log on a few times, and then it worked. Did that over 2 days, saw that it was a great program and purchased. Didn't take me 100 hours to figure out if it was good or not if you catch my drift. Once I purchased it, never had any problem after that which has been reported by everyone that did what I did. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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