[Frequency differences on VATSIM]

On 4/7/2021 at 8:13 AM, aivlasoft said:

After reading all this information and the threads in the VATSIM forum, I decided to change it in EFB to properly display the 25 kHz frequencies.

Hi Urs,

 

one interesting fact to add...

 

The FlyByWire A320N for MSFS does not allow to set .x20 or .x70 via the user interface (dial knobs in the cockpit). It jumps from .x15 to .x25.

But you can set them via a programmatic interface like SIMCONNECT.

I tested this with the EFB and could see that the plane accepts the .x20 and .x70 in this case.

 

As you will fix this in EFB this is might then be not an issue for EFB any longer. I will also raise a ticket in the FlyByWire github for this.

 

Thanks

Frank

[Frequency differences on VATSIM]

8 hours ago, the.nuke.ch said:

Same here, various aicrafts in msfs. Always the last digit is 0 instead of 5. I think its vatsim Data related. 

It's an even more general problem as this discussion in theVATSIM forum shows:

Frequency inaccuracies in VATSIM API - General - VATSIM Community

 

Not sure if this is a problem with different planes in MSFS - do the planes usually really take care of this? Should they?

[ATIS on ATC Ribbon]

16 hours ago, Alg34 said:

Hello, up until a few days ago the current Vatsim ATIS would display on my ATC ribbon, but it has now stopped.

 

I've tried every option I can find and searched the manual but I cant find how to turn this useful feature back on, if anyone could explain what I've missed please.

 

Same here - something changed so that ATIS is not showing any more. 

[Frequency differences on VATSIM]

21 minutes ago, aivlasoft said:

After reading all this information and the threads in the VATSIM forum, I decided to change it in EFB to properly display the 25 kHz frequencies.

 

Very customer friendly solution  - Love it. Thanks

[Frequency differences on VATSIM]

11 minutes ago, KiloJuliett said:

Exactly the issue I tried to explain. While center is actually using the correct/raw frequency, vPilot puts a 5 there when the 25 kHz channel spacing requires it. But this is just a vPilot thing. And it seems vPilot also requires you to use the adapted frequency to connect it back to the original channel, which is technically without the 5. I thought vPilot would also accept the actual/correct frequency (ending with the 0), but maybe this is not the case for the MFS client. I'll check with my setup for P3D and let you know.

 

I also raised this in the vPilot forum:

Frequencies which are given with 2 digits but actually need 3 (eg. .220/.225) not working - vPilot - VATSIM Community

[Frequency differences on VATSIM]

I had the same issue today at EDDB: 

 

vPilot required:

 

I had to manually change in the plane to hear the controller:

 

I use MSFS2020 and the plane was the Working Title CJ4. Haven't tested other planes yet.

EDIT: Have tested the FlyByWire A320n now - same issue.

 

Also I noticed that ATIS is sometimes not displayed in EFB2 as you can see above.

EDIT: ATIS also has a third digit which makes me believe this has nothing to do with the sim or plane if EFB2 also has issue displaying ATIS at all with a freq of 123.775

 

Thanks

 

[EFB2 does not show all stands at (add-on) airports]

Hi Oskar,

 

I was afraid that something like this would be the cause. Copy protection by encryption is understandable but unfortunate in this case. That mean that EFB cannot map any airport which are bought through the store, right?

 

I have found that the airports I have in the Community folder are in fact in the airportFiles_MSFS.txt:

EGKK D:\Games\MSFS2020\official\onestore\fs-base\scenery\0501\APX47130.bgl (#0) Base
     D:\Games\MSFS2020\community\gatwick\scenery\world\scenery\GatwickSCN.bgl (#2) Part
     D:\Games\MSFS2020\official\onestore\fs-base-nav\scenery\0501\NAX47130.bgl (#max) Base

 

ESGG D:\Games\MSFS2020\official\onestore\fs-base\scenery\0601\APX51110.bgl (#0) Base
     D:\Games\MSFS2020\community\orbx-airport-esgg-gothenburg\scenery\world\scenery\esgg-airport.bgl (#2) Part
     D:\Games\MSFS2020\official\onestore\fs-base-nav\scenery\0601\NAX51110.bgl (#max) Base

 

LIMJ D:\Games\MSFS2020\official\onestore\fs-base\scenery\0602\APX50160.bgl (#0) Base
     D:\Games\MSFS2020\community\quelcertoleo-limj-genova\scenery\global\scenery\quelcertoleo-limj-scenery.bgl (#2) Base
     D:\Games\MSFS2020\official\onestore\fs-base-nav\scenery\0602\NAX50160.bgl (#max) Base

 

EDDB D:\Games\MSFS2020\official\onestore\fs-base\scenery\0601\APX51130.bgl (#0) Base
     D:\Games\MSFS2020\community\flyberlin-scenery-simple\scenery\objects.bgl (#2) COM, and more
     D:\Games\MSFS2020\official\onestore\fs-base-nav\scenery\0601\NAX51130.bgl (#max) Base

 

As long as the default airports have most stands this is not to bad. But for airports like EDDS where there isn't a default at all it means there are no stands or taxiways in EFB. 

 

At least now I know the issue - cost me hours today. Thanks for all your effort! I love your software and will keep using it anyway

 

 

[EFB2 does not show all stands at (add-on) airports]

20 minutes ago, lonewulf47 said:

No, not the \texture folder. Aren't there other files in the mentioned path? E.g. mine looks like this:

 

In case there are no other files, could you trawl through the whole EDDM package to find those files - specifically the EDDMAirport.bgl?

 

Nope - otherwise empty. 

These seem important  

 

I also looked into other folders: EDDS - same also empty.  EDDH as well ... several others are empty. 

 

The airports I have in my community (ORBX ESGG, gatwick) have *.BGL files.

 

[EFB2 does not show all stands at (add-on) airports]

12 minutes ago, lonewulf47 said:

Can you do a quick look into this folder: "d:\games\msfs2020\community\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\scenery\simwings\eddm\" and tell me, what files are in there?

 

 

My path would be:

D:\Games\MSFS2020\Official\OneStore\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\scenery\simwings\EDDM\...

 

Yes: One folder (TEXTURE) with 900 files.

 

[EFB2 does not show all stands at (add-on) airports]

In your dbBuilder  logfile I see:

 

2021-03-17 17:26:43.658   Debug   : d:\games\msfs2020\community\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\cgl   !! Skipped !! (Exclude definition)
2021-03-17 17:26:43.662   Debug   : d:\games\msfs2020\community\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\contentinfo   !! Skipped !! (Exclude definition)
2021-03-17 17:26:43.668   Debug   : d:\games\msfs2020\community\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\scenery\simwings\eddm\texture   !! Skipped !! (Exclude definition)
2021-03-17 17:26:43.675   Debug   : d:\games\msfs2020\community\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\simobjects\landmarks\eddm_jetway\texture   !! Skipped !! (Exclude definition)
2021-03-17 17:26:43.680   Debug   : d:\games\msfs2020\community\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\simobjects\misc\eddm_simobjects\texture   !! Skipped !! (Exclude definition)
 

=> so it sees the files in any case.

 

But as you said in airportFiles_MSFS.txt I can only find this:

EDDM D:\Games\MSFS2020\official\onestore\fs-base\scenery\0601\APX51140.bgl (#0) Base
     D:\Games\MSFS2020\official\onestore\fs-base-nav\scenery\0601\NAX51140.bgl (#max) Base

 

 

[EFB2 does not show all stands at (add-on) airports]

I have now moved the EDDM airport files from Official to Community.

MSFS still finds and loads the Add-On Airport. 

Same result in EFB though - not visible for EFB. 

 

I'm out of ideas....

 

Thanks

Frank

 

[EFB2 does not show all stands at (add-on) airports]

5 minutes ago, lonewulf47 said:

Hmm ... why do you have Aerosoft's EDDM installed in the \official\onestore path? I thought you are talking about SimWings EDDM? In my installation this one is installed into the \community path as "simwings-eddm"

 

I have stated that in my first post  - it is the payware airport for EDDM. It is installed by the sim itself when bought ingame.

 

I have the feeling that airports installed in "Official" are not read by your dbBuilder.

 

In my latest test I have removed everything from the Community folder (really everything - it's empty) and deleted the Content.xml.

When starting up MSFS it rebuilds the Content.xml like the attached file.

I have then rebuild the EFB db from scratch (new db). Logfiles attached.

Same result - MSFS shows all stands and has the EDDS airport.

EFB does not have all stands for EDDM and does not even see EDDS (EDDS is not in the original MSFS data - comes with add-on (payed or free) or with Navigraph)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Content.xml Logfiles.zip

[EFB2 does not show all stands at (add-on) airports]

47 minutes ago, lonewulf47 said:

 

<Content>
    <Package name="fs-base" active="true"/>
    <Package name="fs-base-nav" active="false"/>
    <Package name="navigraph-navdata" active="true"/>

    ...

 

Will try that. 

 

This is exhausting - starting MSFS, building db, shutting down, make change, starting MSFS....

 

I de-installed navigraph data from MSFS for now - the issue is there even without it. 

 

What does this mean in the dbBuilder log?

 

2021-03-17 13:44:20.129   Debug   : d:\games\msfs2020\official\onestore\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\cgl   !! Skipped !! (Exclude definition)
2021-03-17 13:44:20.133   Debug   : d:\games\msfs2020\official\onestore\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\contentinfo   !! Skipped !! (Exclude definition)
2021-03-17 13:44:20.137   Debug   : d:\games\msfs2020\official\onestore\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\scenery\simwings\eddm\texture   !! Skipped !! (Exclude definition)
2021-03-17 13:44:20.143   Debug   : d:\games\msfs2020\official\onestore\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\simobjects\landmarks\eddm_jetway\texture   !! Skipped !! (Exclude definition)
2021-03-17 13:44:20.148   Debug   : d:\games\msfs2020\official\onestore\aerosoft-airport-eddm-munich\simobjects\misc\eddm_simobjects\texture   !! Skipped !! (Exclude definition)
 

Why is it skipped and excluded? Should this be like this?

 

Also - my AddOn airports are not in the Community folder but in the Official folder as the are but in the sim. Would that make a difference?

 

EFB is not even finding the files:

Strange.

 

I will try another content.xml order now....

 

 

[EFB2 does not show all stands at (add-on) airports]

 

That's a good hint - that list is very helpful.

I guess the Content.XML of MSFS or something else is messing with the priority.

Will look into it.

Thanks

Frank

[EFB2 does not show all stands at (add-on) airports]

 

 

Here screenshots of EDDM:

 

[EFB2 does not show all stands at (add-on) airports]

Hi Aivlasoft Team,

 

I'm aware this issue can be very specific to my environment. Any hints to solve or better troubleshoot are much appreciated. 

If you need any more files or logs, please let me know. 

 

Thanks

Frank

 

 

ISSUE:

 

EFB2 does no show all stands at airports any more. 

Best example is my EDDS Add-On Airport. See screenshots: MSFS layout, Little Navmp layout, EFB layout:

 

 

MSFS 2020

 

 

Update - Little Navmap also misses the stands after a scenery update

I included the Little Navmap screenshot as it also reads airport data from the sim as far as I know. Might help in troubleshotting.

Update 2: Seems only stands included in navdata are included but not stands from Add-Ons. Removed my EDDS Add-On while keeping Navigraph data and it only showed the runway in MSFS and no stands. This is the same as EFB shows. Installing the Add-On again and MSFS shows all stands again (after a restart). 

 

Edit: Screenshot from 3rd party apps deleted by Admin for legal reasons

 

Troubleshooting attempts:

I have update Navigraph data for EFB and also for the Sim.

I have rebuild the database from scratch - logfiles attached. 

Server log also attached.

Haven't found the issue at default airports - but only checked a few.

Same issue for EDDM - some stands but fewer than the sim.

Same issue for EDDH - some stands but fewer than the sim.

 

Simulator type

MSFS2020 1.14.5

EFB v2 Server and Client Build #

#124

EFB v2 setup: networked or single machine

Single

EFB v2 setup: default or custom path

custom

Using licensed or free trial version

licensed

If the issue is related to database or procedures: - Navdata provider and cycle number

Navigraph

If the issue is related to a certain airport: - ICAO code.

EDDS (payed add-on), EDDM (payed add-on), 

If it's an add-on airport, then the publisher/developer of the add-on airport

EDDS - Justsim, EDDM - Aerosoft, EDDH - Justsim

Steps to reproduce the behavior

Unclear

runwayMappings_MSFS-NG.txt dbBuilderLogfile.txt serverLogfile.txt airportFiles_MSFS.zip

 

[Request: Second ADF frequency]

Hello Urs,

 

no worries - I just wanted to leave this so you can eventually put on your roadmap. It is not critical at all.

 

Regards

Frank

[Request: Second ADF frequency]

Some planes have two ADF receivers and therefore frequencies - e.g. A320neo. 

AivlaSoft EFB2 Radio Panel has only one frequency. 

Therefore this feature request for a second frequency.

 

Thanks

Frank

 

Simulator type: MSFS2020

EFB v2 Server and Client Build #: AivlaSoft.Efb.Client Version 2.2 (build #124), AivlaSoft.Efb.Server Version 2.2 (build #124)

EFB v2 setup: networked or single machine: Single

EFB v2 setup: default or custom path: Custom

Using licensed or free trial version: licensed

Steps to reproduce the behavior: use A320neo in MSFS2020 (fbw mod) - only way I can show a planewith two ADF frequencies

[MTOW warning although below limit]

43 minutes ago, Cdr Maverick said:

Hi, its Frank,  sorry for that.

 

As I'm not sure how it should look like when the correct profile has been loaded (just installed this the first time). I will investigate further...

 

Thanks

Frank 

 

19 minutes ago, lonewulf47 said:

Hi Frank,

 

Check in the status bar, whether the proper profile is indicated:

 

 

This name must be equal to the name "show as" in the profile:

 

 

According to your previous screenshots it looks as if you created your own profile. Make sure that your did not use the same mandatory fields as already present in another profile. Those must be unique to each separate profile. It might well be that there is a mismatch with another existing profile.

 

Got it working. Deleted my own profile and restarted the client...

Thanks Frank

 

[MTOW warning although below limit]

1 minute ago, lonewulf47 said:

Hi ??? (please observe our Forum Rules and sign your post with your real name)

 

Yes, of course there is something wrong. In your screenshot there is no information available as to which profile is REALLY loaded. Check the status bar. The only explanation so far is that in your flight the wrong profile has loaded.

Hi, its Frank,  sorry for that.

 

As I'm not sure how it should look like when the correct profile has been loaded (just installed this the first time). I will investigate further...

 

Thanks

Frank 

[MTOW warning although below limit]

I get  MTOW caution although weight is below configured weight.

 

MTOW in profile: 79.000kg

GW in sim (MSFS2020): 61.300

GW in EFB2: 60.351kg

 

Bug or am I doing something wrong?